@status-204 Software emulation has come a long way and is not much different than actual hardware now for many emulators, but ya I will hold off for my analogue pocket as it will get hacked and be able to play most of what this can.
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I would have liked a more thorough comparison between actual hardware and the polymega. Also I'd like a comparison of the polymega against the emulators on PC. The below video review does a better job of comparing side by side. The differences won't really bother casual users but will likely bother people that spend alot of time with retrogames.
This box is selling convenience. It's one stop to load all your games/emulators. The UI is slick. It's clear that they spent alot of time trying to make the UI premium to give the overall impression that the total package is premium. That said, all these emulators are available for free on PC. And if you are just interested in playing games it's likely you'll do as good or better on a PC as the polymega is in general a weak spec'd PC. That said we really won't know until more units are in the wild and someone does a side by side comparison to the PC counterparts.
So their market appears to be people that aren't focused on great accuracy and also want the convenience of not having to setup multiple emulators themselves. Are these people willing to spend that much? Analogue has proven that people will pay if the accuracy is there. I'm not sure people will pay for almost accuracy there.
I'm sure it's really close. But to me if I'm spending $400 I want better accuracy than was shown in the video above for Genesis emulation which in general takes less power than Saturn emulation. So I'd love to see more side by side videos of the unit to discuss timing differences, sound differences, and some of the minor issues that you've noted in your review but aren't highlighted in the video. To me a video review for something like this makes alot more sense than a written review where I can't actually see or hear the differences side by side. That's just me though. I'm likely not the target audience because I'd want much better accuracy then I've seen online. Maybe the Saturn emulator is better, but I wouldn't buy this just for a Saturn as I already have a Saturn attached to an OSSC and am looking at purchasing the Terraonion mode to go with it. So in general it would really have to knock my socks up to go for that over what I have.
@TG16_IS_BAE Most of my emulated stuff looks way better and have insanely faster loading times. I think a lot of youtube channels like gamesack prefer to use the real hardware to get the real experience of everything, including glitches and loading. With an emulator you might think a game is better than it actually was.
Most people won't notice. And I say that as a big FPGA proponent. Most good emulators and FPGA will be cycle accurate (or close enough) and display pretty pixels. To me the biggest benefit of FPGA is lag. To some people they won't notice. But a device like this has 3 frames lag versus 0 on FPGA. Some games the lag doesn't even bother me much. But there are games like Mike Tyson's Punchout that will be impossible to beat on this. And will feel just like the original on FPGA. So some games it matters. And if you like those games the differences will matter.
@Swoltacular I'll be sticking to emulation, as well, but none of my emulators have the capability of ripping the rom straight from the cd or cartridge. That's the main selling point for the polymega, I would imagine.
All emulators have a frame buffer. Even the best add at least 1 frame of lag. Then you'll have additional digital lag from your monitor. The best have less than a frame of lag. USB inputs usually 4-5 ms of polling rate. The best setups usually have 2 frames of input lag. Most people won't notice this. Heck I wouldn't even notice this. But... I've never beaten Mike Tyson with 2 frames of lag. And I pulled that off on the RetroUSB AVS with no problem. So if it's a very good setup, it can't be seen or even felt really. But it's still there and can affect your gaming.
@Guitario The cheapest route is just to use your existing PC, but that doesn't solve needing to configure everything and get all the correct bin/cue files and all that. The Polymega is the easiest way to play CD-based games. The fact that it will play backups makes it even simpler. Emulating NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16, etc.? Yeah, that stuff is real easy. But these CD-based consoles are a huge pain in the ass, because you need the right bios files, RAM add-ons, and you have all these goofy files and stuff. I've done the Raspberry Pi stuff and it's just never as simple as people make it out to be. Try configuring multiple controllers for a Pi, then map all the buttons over manually when it's not recognized correctly. Even just getting a Bluetooth controller working on a computer is a hassle, because you need to check if you're on D-input, X-input, etc. Then all of a sudden AB and XY are reversed. The complications never end. Will it be enough to shoot Polymega to stardom, I dunno. But configuring a computer is not something even 1% of the population can do.
I know there is this negative connotation to emulation boxes which is why you don't like the comparison, especially in light of pi's being so cheap. But it's a cheap PC with optimized UI and emulators. The UI is certainly nice and if you don't have a PC close to a TV there is some utility there. But the price jumps dramatically if you say add SNES, NES, Genesis as most people would want to be at $690.
Here is the listing of emulators that are used:System Emulator ModuleFamicom / NES Mesen EM01Super Famicom / SNES Mednafen (SNES Faust) EM02Sega Mega Drive / Genesis Modified Kega Fusion EM03Sega Mega CD / Sega CD Modified Kega Fusion BaseSega 32X Modified Kega Fusion EM03PC Engine / TurboGrafx-16 Mednafen EM04PC Engine CD / TurboGrafx-CD Mednafen BasePC Engine SuperGrafx Mednafen EM04Neo Geo CD Modified MAME BaseSega Saturn Mednafen BaseSony PlayStation Mednafen Base
The hardware is unimpressive. Based on information they gave before, the main CPU is an Intel G4930. This is a celeron class PC below the I3 series that most low end laptops run. So while there may be some benefit to these versions of emulators (reviews pending), most people will own a more powerful PC that could take advantage of other features within the emulators.
So yes, you can compare this to a cheap PC packed with emulators, but that's a very narrow view of what the goal is here. That's a bit like saying a PS5 / Xbox Series X is just a PC in a smaller case.
You may have had a point when listing the emulators/cores, but you forgot one MASSIVELY important factor: with many of these cores and BIOS'es, they've enlisted the help of the ORIGINAL builders/hackers to reverse engineer or sometimes even completely re-engineer them to fit the custom design of the Polymega hardware, such as in the case of the Saturn emulator, which by the way is actually based on Yabause, a notoriously difficult to run and tweak emulator, even on higher end PC's.
I've admitted there are convenience benefits and I wouldn't tell anybody what to do with their money. But I think when you talk about new hardware you compare it to available options which would include available emulators on the PC spectrum which will give a very similar gameplay experience while maybe not doing as well with the UI. I just don't think you can't compare the two even if someone values the UI very highly.
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